Becoming Frum
  • Home
  • Purchase
  • Excerpts
  • Reviews
  • Author
  • Lectures
  • Resources
  • Discussion forum

Frumspeak

10/26/2012

76 Comments

 
by Sarah Bunin Benor

I announced the launch of my new website, the Jewish English Lexicon, and a frum friend who lives in Monsey sent this fun response:

"Fantastic. Moiredik. It's totally not geshmak for me to bring this up, but it's mamesh a pele to me, certain words that you forgot to include. What's pshat? Well lemaiseh I shouldn't complain; You taineh that we can add to the website, and I hear it, I hear the point, but still. My eitzah  is that if you would be by us for Shabbes, you would chap a few more words for your website, plus you could help me make Shabbes - put up the chulent, get the kugel on the blech. (We don't hold by the eruv, you should know.) Don't worry, we're cholov yisroel, although we're not makpid on yoshon.

"So how's the mishpocha?  By me, everything is boruch Hashem. I have a new einikel, the mechutanim were by us for the Sholom Zochor and bris, my daughter is supporting her husband in learning, my son in Lakewood is out of the freezer and still in the parsha, and the rest of the kinder are growing up quickly, keineinehora poo poo poo.  

"I'm maskim is that it's anyway not shayach for you to include every word and expression. So 'shkoiach on the gevaldige website!  We all mamesh love it."

This tongue-in-cheek response is a great example of Orthodox Jewish English, which I discuss in Becoming Frum and Chaim Weiser documents in Frumspeak: The First Dictionary of Yeshivish. Orthodox Jews use many words from Hebrew, Aramaic, and Yiddish in their everyday English speech, as well as grammatical influences from Yiddish. Many of the words in my Monsey friend's response are already listed in the Lexicon, and I'm hoping readers like you will add the rest (it's a Wikipedia-style site).

To what extent do non-Orthodox Jews use this distinctive English? I talk about this a bit in Becoming Frum and in this AJS Perspectives article. In addition, I offer some further thoughts in this article about an Orthodox rabbi's open letter to Sarah Silverman. I'd love to hear your responses.

76 Comments
side effect link
3/7/2013 02:54:10 am

I’m glad Yahoo pointed me to it. I was able to get the know-how I was searching so badly for days now.Thank You very much for your really good web page. Have a good day.It's very useful for everyone for sure.

Reply
West Seattle renters insurance agent link
7/3/2013 05:12:16 am

Think twice before you speak, because your words and influence will plant the seed of either success or failure in the mind of another.

Reply
academic editing services link
8/4/2013 04:59:44 pm

For you to sleep well at night, the aesthetic, the quality, has to be carried all the way through.

buy instagram likes link
10/18/2013 04:41:35 pm

There is lot of information and they are very innovative and informative. I have read the article very well and it seems to me awesome.

Y8 Friv link
10/25/2013 06:21:42 pm

The ban is very open and strong clear dime issues. was explanations of the information actually is. Your site is extremely beneficial. appreciate the split process.

Reply
resume writing service discount link
10/28/2013 07:27:21 pm

Find Inspiring Quotes On Facebook. It's Quick, Easy & Free. Join Now!

Reply
student loans link
3/18/2013 10:55:35 pm

Things are very open and intensely clear explanation of issues. was truly information. Your website is very beneficial. Appreciate your sharing.

Reply
State Education link
10/18/2013 06:20:40 pm

This page is very informative and fun to read about week event. I appreciated what you have done here. I enjoyed every little bit part of it. I am always searching for informative information like this.

Reply
Friv link
3/19/2013 03:32:04 am

Things are very open and intensely clear explanation of issues. was truly information. Your website is very beneficial. Appreciate your sharing.

Reply
DNA genetics seed link
4/3/2013 09:35:40 pm

people who belong to non orthodox jewish family have a different slank of English. They speak a quite different way as that from the normal one was. It depends on the place where we took birth that decides our language.

Reply
4laptop4deal link
4/26/2013 06:00:20 pm

Awesome blog. I enjoyed reading your article. For me, this really is a great read. I bookmarked, and I am looking forward to reading new articles. Keep up the good work

Reply
realestatebestlawyer link
4/28/2013 09:20:11 pm

I want to find the paid directory submission service ,which can make strategical internet business project, based on directory submission. I strive to win my web contest.

Reply
10starsfoods link
4/28/2013 09:22:45 pm

Good stuff. It is interesting to read comments.

Reply
Yisrael link
5/2/2013 09:26:12 pm

I find the hybrid pidgin English confusing. Maybe it's an intellectual shortcoming of mine but to me it's like the old adage about having two starting quarterbacks in football: two quarterbacks are the same as no quarterback. The blend makes for bad communication. In my view, pick a language. It's fine to pop in a word/term or two if it's a better word for the idea - such as joie de vivre or nachas. But is 'payrush' any better than 'commentary'? When I hear a speaker carry on like this I tune out immediately. When R' Joseph Soloveitchik spoke to the public he used English with occasional sprinkling of Hebrew, Yiddish, or even Latin as appropriate. But the book Vayikra was Leviticus, and Tehillim was Psalms. Kedushah was Holiness. You knew you were listening to English and not he formation of a new Yiddish.

Reply
centre d esthetique link
5/4/2013 12:25:15 am

Organic design of interiors uses natural elements for creating those designs by minimal usage of synthetic materials.

Reply
college term papers link
5/17/2013 09:17:51 pm

This is obviously one great post. Thanks for the valuable information and insights you have so provided here.

Reply
custom essay link
5/18/2013 08:08:01 pm

Obviously I like your web site, but you have to check the spelling on quite a few of your posts. Several of them are rife with spelling problems and I find it very silly to inform you. Nevertheless I’ll surely come again again!

Reply
army wedding cake toppers link
5/24/2013 03:53:21 am

This is really attractive; you are a very accomplished blogger. I will join your rss feed and look forward to seeking more of your unbelievable post. Also I will share your post in my social networks. Thanks a lot .

Reply
buy essay link
6/1/2013 08:51:12 pm

Oh! Amazing work with the article. I find few helps over here related by this post to do my task nicely. I highly recommend this. Thanks a lot………

Reply
homes for sale El Dorado Hills link
6/10/2013 07:13:25 am

Oh! Amazing employment with the editorial . I locate few helps over here related by this post to accomplish my task nicely. I highly recommend this. Thanks a lot………

Reply
http://www.custom-essay-writer.net link
6/18/2013 07:42:40 am

Wonderful! Actually wealthy content and extremely helpful in sequence. I got it my answer from over here. I extremely advocate his/her mechanism with the helpful educational information. Thanks a lot………..

Reply
business valuation link
6/25/2013 01:28:16 pm

I adore the way to be taught from end to end this way and I wish for to thank the admin because he/she did a good job over here. The content helps me a lot to accomplish by workings. I highly recommend this blog site.

Reply
http://www.primovpn.com link
7/3/2013 07:39:45 pm

Typically consumed as a spice, saffron is also sold in dietary supplement form. Proponents claim that supplements containing saffron extract can help promote weight loss and aid in the treatment of a number of health conditions.

Reply
cash advance link
7/5/2013 08:10:22 am

If truth be told awe-inspiring toil with the blog. I do akin to your durable employment and will hang around for more post from you as post gave me satisfaction and gives some helps to do same work right here. Thanks a lot…………………………

Reply
spell check link
7/10/2013 06:53:58 am

In fact grand employment with the blog. I do akin to your solid toil and will remain for more post from you as post gave me happiness and gives some helps to do same work right here. Thanks a lot…………………………

Reply
essay writing services link
7/12/2013 08:49:15 am

Really rich content and very useful information. I found my problem’s solution starting over here. I exceedingly advocate his/her machinery by means of the valuable enlightening information. Thanks a lot………..

Reply
college essay help service link
7/12/2013 03:34:01 pm

For example, sometimes in your essay you may be asked to compare the advantages and disadvantages of one variable rather than writing about two different variables.

Reply
act practice test link
7/19/2013 07:58:07 pm

This is the original point in time I visited this blog. Really this is breathtaking effort with the blog. It is exceedingly contentment to search out it as I got mammoth helps right here. I decidedly welcome the bloggers workings and will kill time for more post from the supervision.

Reply
online tutoring link
7/21/2013 06:33:39 pm

If truth be told awe-inspiring toil with the blog. I do akin to your durable employment and will hang around for more post from you as post gave me satisfaction and gives some helps to do same work right here. Thanks a lot…………………………

Reply
Ditra Matting link
7/26/2013 07:27:06 pm

Your post is one of the better that I have read. Thank you for putting this information into one location.

Reply
uktutor.org link
7/26/2013 08:46:32 pm

Oh! Amazing and really rich content and very useful information. I got it my solution from over here. I highly recommend his/her workings with the useful informative information. Thanks a lot………..

Reply
Essay writing link
7/29/2013 11:56:15 am

The present the Green Earth Book Award to those they deem the best in environmental stewardship literature.

Reply
College Essay Writing Service link
7/31/2013 09:40:35 pm

I was very pleased to find this site. I wanted to thank you for this great read!! I definitely enjoyed every little bit of it and I have you bookmarked to check out new stuff you post

Reply
the best Singapore VPN link
8/1/2013 07:43:22 pm

I would like to thank you for the efforts you have made in writing this article. I am hoping the same best work from you in the future as well.

Reply
check cashing corona link
8/3/2013 08:38:29 am

Oh! Breathtaking post. Really this site is awfully cooperative for all concerning this. I got little important helps from here and exceedingly recommended it. Of course I will be on familiar terms with my relatives and relevant competitors concerning this blog and will wait for more. Thanks a lot…….

Reply
kizi link
8/4/2013 08:10:59 pm

I liked the content you have given here. Very informative. Good post.

Reply
cover letter service link
8/8/2013 02:35:10 pm

The website iTunes offers millions of rap songs with a few clicks on the keyboard. While rapping should be dependent on the beats and the groove, sometimes one simply needs to rap fast. Thanks.

Reply
interlinside link
8/11/2013 02:43:57 pm

that a good idea, i have read, and share

Reply
salary proposal letter link
8/15/2013 06:24:18 am

All the contents you mentioned in post are too good and can be very useful. I will keep it in mind, thanks for sharing the information keep updating, looking forward for more posts.

Reply
proposal letter link
8/20/2013 01:46:32 pm

Technology is nothing. What's important is that you have a faith in people, that they're basically good and smart, and if you give them tools, they'll do wonderful things with them.

Reply
custom essays link
8/21/2013 06:08:55 am

Oh! Amazing job with the article. I come across few helps over here related by this post to do my task nicely. I highly recommend this. Thanks a lot………

Reply
http://www.dissertations-help.org link
8/28/2013 07:42:52 pm

This is the original point in time I visited this blog. Really this is breathtaking effort with the blog. It is exceedingly contentment to search out it as I got mammoth helps right here. I decidedly welcome the bloggers workings and will kill time for more post from the supervision.

Reply
Henry link
9/1/2013 02:57:40 am

I'm new to this site, just browsing around

Reply
friv link
9/13/2013 11:10:00 am

Oh yeahh. Nice share. Thanks.

Reply
Straightening Machine link
9/15/2013 11:06:07 pm

Thanks for sharing information that is actually helpful.

Reply
check cashing san bernardino link
9/22/2013 04:17:26 am

Oh! Amazing toil in the midst of the article. I stumble on few helps over here related by this post to make my task nicely. I highly recommend this. Thanks a lot………

Reply
merchant services link
9/25/2013 03:27:11 pm

Thanks for taking the time to discuss this, I feel strongly about it and love learning more on this topic. If possible, as you gain expertise, would you mind updating your blog with more information? It is extremely helpful for me.

Reply
http://norsk-casinos.com/ - best internet casino ever which perennially surprising link
9/26/2013 06:21:24 am

In reality splendid occupation with the blog. I do in the vein of your rigid effort and will linger for more post from you as post gave me joy and gives some helps to do same work right here. Thanks a lot…………………………

Reply
Friv 2 link
9/27/2013 12:56:24 am

I think that basically Jews still use English as the primary language. But depending on the region they will have different pronunciations and can be included in the local language. So there will be little difference from English common

Reply
Friv Games link
9/27/2013 12:58:36 am

You have some really good ideas in this article. I am glad I read this. I agree with much of what you state in this article. Your information is thought-provoking, interesting and well-written. Thank you.

Reply
assignment help link
9/27/2013 11:02:44 pm

What's pshat? Well lemaiseh I shouldn't object; You taineh that we can sum to the website, plus I hark it, I learn the dot, yet peaceful.

Reply
Kizi 2 link
9/30/2013 06:59:33 pm

A new website launched, we'll fan of the site, hope it will be widely available

Reply
liebeskummer link
10/1/2013 05:34:54 pm

Great post. I am the regular targeted visitor of your site and also enjoy you making the effort to help keep your excellent site. I will be described as a regular targeted visitor for any long time.

Reply
http://how-to-write-an-essay.org/ link
10/2/2013 06:07:27 pm

My eitzah is that if you would be by us for Shabbes, you would bloke a handful better rumors for your website, plus you could guidance me force Shabbes - put up the chulent, have the kugel on the blech. (We don't adhere by the eruv, you should recognize.) Don't hector, we're cholov yisroel, albeit we're nay makpid on yoshon.

Reply
Porcelain veneers Sherman Oaks CA link
10/3/2013 07:15:55 pm

I just love the blog post. Its very informative, interactive and quality content. I wish you all good luck for your coming blogs and posts. Keep sharing!

Reply
evaporative air cooler work link
10/3/2013 10:13:45 pm

Nice and effective blog post. The content is too short but effective. I love the information you share here. Its an well written blog post by you. This is awesome blog post.

Reply
Air Conditioning Repair Phoenix AZ link
10/4/2013 06:14:11 pm

Nice post and good design web, its very clean people be enjoying to read and search in your article..

Reply
payday loans costa mesa link
10/5/2013 06:42:50 am

Oh! Amazing and really rich content and very useful information. I got it my solution from over here. I highly recommend his/her workings with the useful informative information. Thanks a lot……….

Reply
Pest control services east london link
10/8/2013 04:51:22 pm

Shabbes, you would chap a few more words for your website, plus you could help me make Shabbes - put up the chulent, get the kugel on the blech. (We don't hold by the eruv, you should know.) Don't worry, we're cholov yisroel, although we're not makpid on yoshon.

Reply
Business moving service uk link
10/9/2013 03:48:49 pm

I'm maskim is that it's anyway not shayach for you to include every word and expression. So 'shkoiach on the gevaldige website!

Reply
xxx link
10/22/2013 06:27:59 pm

Moiredik. It's totally not geshmak for me to bring this up, but it's mamesh a pele to me, certain words that you forgot to include. What's pshat? Well lemaiseh I shouldn't complain; You taineh that we can add to the website, and I hear it, I hear the point, but still.

Reply
hotels in victoria link
10/23/2013 03:57:24 pm

I'm impressed. You're truly well informed and very intelligent. You wrote something that people could understand and made the subject intriguing for everyone. I'm saving this for future use.

Reply
You have a good chance to disrupt the jack pot playing the online casino. link
10/27/2013 03:43:25 pm

Truly tremendous vocation with the blog. I do reminiscent of your tough occupation and will stop for more post from you as post gave me pleasure and gives some helps to do same work right here. Thanks a lot…………………………<a href="http://10onlinecasinos.co.za/">You have a good chance to disrupt the jack pot playing the online casino.</a>

Reply
z6 link
10/29/2013 11:58:21 am

I would like to say that this article really convinced me, you give me best information!

Reply
ngockonvang link
10/31/2013 02:51:06 am

I was targeted visitors frequent your site and you can also enjoy the efforts made ​​to help keep the site's amazing thank you for sharing.

Reply
Friv2friv4 link
11/7/2013 03:07:57 am

You would bloke a handful better rumors for your website.Please support me.

Reply
best games pc link
12/2/2013 09:06:32 pm

amazing great post great to go to your blog attractive and informative cheers regarding write about. Nice to learn to read your own attractive weblog reviews and post.

Reply
Steve Brizel
12/3/2013 12:14:40 am

As a BT who was inspired by NCSY to attendYU's James Striar School in its heyday, I read your book with considerable interest. Yet, your examination of why a young man or woman would become a BT could not accept the fact that many young men and women were seriously looking for a moral compass within Torah observant Judaism, as opposed to the reasons offered in your book, which I found were rooted in your admittedly feminist ideology and non-Orthodox orientation.

Reply
ebog link
12/18/2013 11:56:14 pm

Thank you so much! Really rich content and very useful information. I found my problem’s solution starting over here. I exceedingly advocate his/her machinery by means of the valuable enlightening information. Thanks a lot.

Reply
friv 2 link
12/29/2013 11:02:33 pm

I'm impressed. You're truly well informed and very intelligent. You wrote something that people could understand and made the subject intriguing for everyone.

Reply
kizi 10 link
1/5/2014 10:41:28 am


You share a great writer, I really appreciate this article. Thanks for nice article.

Reply
Friv link
1/8/2014 04:52:24 pm

Thank you for putting this information into one place. .

Reply
Sara link
1/27/2014 05:59:21 pm

Just amazing topic because this type of this people do not think and respect but you also described this topic really well thanks for sharing.

Reply
friv link
2/4/2014 10:38:47 am

good
http://www.yepi10games.org/

Reply
friv link
2/25/2014 03:57:06 pm

Thank you so much! Really rich content and very useful information. I found my problem’s solution starting over here. I exceedingly advocate his/her machinery by means of the valuable enlightening information.

Reply
friv yepi link
3/2/2014 10:37:37 pm


Well, I hope you're happy. You've managed to impress me, the unimpressionable one. My friends will make fun of me for this. You did well.

Reply

Your comment will be posted after it is approved.


Leave a Reply.

    Archives

    September 2020
    September 2017
    September 2016
    February 2016
    May 2015
    June 2013
    May 2013
    November 2012
    October 2012
    June 2012
    January 2012

    RSS Feed

Powered by Create your own unique website with customizable templates.